I posted awhile back about a guy that has been working on making patches of different amps and amp cabinets to use with the gnx series. This guy has way to much free time on his hands, but has posted some really great sounding patches for different amps. what he has been doing is recording an actual amp, then using test equipment he is duplicating the signal, and making a "patch" that is if not right on, very very close to use with the gnx series. I just received an update on how far along he is, and some of the pricing that will be involved and thought that anyone with a gnx series would be interested. This is a tad long, but it also explains somewhat the process he is going thru. You can also go to his website to sign up for them and read what he has been doing. His website is http://www.mtprosound.com
Here is the email I just received.
I mentioned having both versions, basic and Ultimate ( like the GNX4 pkg). The Ult series work on the GNX3..just a little off on the GNX2 cause it has no speaker compensation like the 3 and 4 do. The GNX3000 also does NOT have speaker compensation. The Basic Series will have all the same hypermodels, just in patch form. As of now, the .acm files or individual hypermodels for the GNX4 are only usable in Xedit. So many Gnx3 users have asked for just the patches themselves. In that, they can extract the hypermodels of each channel and save them to their PC to create their own library of files. So, in fairness to GNX3 users, I extended the offer to just the patch versions of the exact same Amp Mfgs's by Model No, Type, Cabs, etc, for half the price. 60.00 which Includes CONUS S/H. In this you will have 72 Folders of over 350 or more Patches plus Artist presets. For many it's easier this way. If I have to convert all the hypermodels or .acm files to GENEDIT...it's time consuming and will be up there in price like the GNX4 Series. Based on responses so far, (27) only 3 want the converted full package.
Again, I know myself that the Ultimate Series patches all work with the GNX3, just not the .acm file Library. To Sum it up here's how the basic series GNX3 series will work..
Get the Basic Series of patches. These will be organized by the following:
AMP Model patches...all versions all mfgs, Variac, Power Break, Multichannel Mode, etc.
Acoustic Modeling...Acoustic Amp and actual Guitar Models like the Lrrivee patch I recently posted at Digitech site.
Bass Guitar Modeling...Bass Amps and Guitars like Precision, Jazz, Rik's etc.
Cabinet Models...various forms from single 8's to 4x12 Stacks.
Now...the Basic users will do this. Since you have all the patches ( already Converted), the green and red ch's will have also the converted hypermodels for use in the GNX3. For Instance, Fender Delux Rev Clean in the Green Ch, and Deluxe Rev overdrive in the Red Channel. (NO STOMBOXES ARE USED but you can add them if you want).
To create your own library you do this, for example. You open the patch in GENEDIT with the PC connected. Now create a folder for your AMP. In this case, Fender Folder first..then Create a NEW FOLDER marked DELUXE REV. With Genedit, slide the cursor to all Green ( Amp and Cabinet)..Click the Warp Light to yellow. Now, save the file as a GNX3 Custom Amp Model It will ask you to name the file ( it will be blank)...Give it a name, in this case Delux Rev Clean. Click save and BOOM you have just created your first file for an independent library. Do the same on the Red Ch amp. With this you will have many of your own versions of hypermodels ( independent channels) for your own use. What's the advantage of this? Well, say you have a model and want to clean it up, or make a mixed patch of a Plexi, and Delux Rev. With the individual hypermodels from your library, You would have an easy way to do this.
1. With GNX3 connected to PC, Open GENEDIT.
2. Select FILE> New Preset>. This will open a blank Preset for Editing.
3. Now Select FILE> Load custom Hypermodel> scroll to Green or Red channel ( it will prompt you and toggle with your mouse).
4. Pick the File you want to add..in this case, Delux Rev Clean. Voila..you now have a new preset with a Fender Delx Rev in the Green Ch,
5. Repeat steps 2 through 4 for the Red Channel. This Time select Marshall>Plexi>Blues Drive (for example). This inserts the Marshall Plexi in the Red ch.
6. Go the Effects page and add efx to your liking.
Saving the Preset.
Create a New Folder in your GNX3 Custom Library..let's say "Alan's Custom Patches"
Save the Preset by clicking Genedit >File> save preset as> then name it. ( Be careful to Limit the characters to 7 or 8..no more than that cause it won't display properly). For example let's name this "PLXIREV".... Genedit will now Place the Custom patch named PLEXIREV into the folder of Alan's Custom Patches. Your Library has been started. Do the same for other Patches and Hypermodels.
What helps me is understanding the differences here. Knowing what Hypermodels are all about is crucial to this, for deep editing. Once you work with a few, it's a walk...but is time consuming as well.
Here's what I love about it. If you have a guitar or amp that the GNX doesn't quite resolve due to amp coloring, pickups, guitar type etc, You can easily correct it. You can even customize patches for Sets, Songlists, Style..etc. It's limitless if you have the time. Say the Guitar and Patch for whatever reason is too harsh..well many will change the amp channel settings and cut/boost what they think they need. GENEDIT gives you a better option. With the GNX3 Connected to PC and with the GNX3 Outputs to your amp..OPEN a Patch. Scroll the mouse cursor over the 4 color Quadrants in the GENEDITOR until you find a region that sounds great. This way you do not alter EQ's etc. You can still Tweak though. When you find your patch settings that really work, save the Preset as a varaition of the original one. For Example if you had tweaked the One we just made, you can "Save As" PLXREVGA ( just to pick a name). What this does is indicate both the Original Patch "PLXREV" and adding GA to it means it's made specifically for the Guitar Amp, or Live Usage. The Benefit here is you can have a library of Patches for RECORDING, or preselected for LIVE USE. Once users understand the rewards to this and take a little bit of time doing it, they will have easily resolved the many sound issues with their unit and not have to continually look for a better solution of products. GNX Warping technology is the key to so much in getting professional sound, for any situation.
I am responding like this because I want to be sure users select exactly what they want. Many do not want to import export files to create a library, so for them, just the patch version is more than enough. Others like to dig in and make a custom situation. So, Again, the choices here are I can do it for a lot more, or you can get the BASIC Series and over time, create your own amp model library from the presets already provided and converted. I just want GNX3 users to be sure. Many have gone to buy the GNX4 Series Ultimate, and I have prompted them that the .acm files do not convert, but..the patches of those .acm hypermodels will convert just fine. In that, many decided what's the sense in having the individual amp models when they can just have the presets of the same. So, I decided to make a Preset or Patch Version only..for the GNX3 Users that want to make their own libraries..or just use the 350 or more Amp and Artist patches on the BASIC SERIES. The Ultimate Series GNX4 Disc is very extensive..but all the same patches are included for GNX3 BASIC for $60. The GNX4 Ultimate Comprises the same patches, but also includes 874 .acm files in the library. So for GNX3 guys getting the Ultimate Series..874 files will not convert. This was an oversight on my behalf and I'm glad I caught it as such. Anyway..there you have it, how you can do your own library with just the BASIC disc, or if I get enough that want the deep editing..I'll have to reform those 874 files to the GNX3, which will take a while. Given the lower price on the GNX3, it's difficult for anyone to buy the Discs at $115 US.. so for many that responded that are GNX3 Users..The $60 tag for the Ultimate Series basic Preset Only package is a lot more doable on their wallets. If I get enough interested GNX3 users that want the full package converted,,I'll do it. For now, It looks like the best bet is just supply the Basic Series and they can choose how to customize their own library. I also have stated that Basic Series purchases will be applied if the GNX3 Ultimate Series is created. So, If you get the BASIC at $60, and a month down the road I have the full version..Those that purchased the Basic Series can Upgrade for $55.00 US. This will be a new Disc of all that is included in the Ultimate Series. Fair Enough??? I want it to be...